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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
We don't choose the times we live in. The only choice we have is how we respond.
通过两个小人物的角度展现慕尼黑协议签订前后英德双方的立场态度，可以作为一定的历史背景补充，有一定的剧作张力，但是不太满意最后电影对张伯伦谋略的反转刻画，就算不太了解历史的我都会觉得突兀和前后矛盾，就会对主创是否能正视历史产生疑问。
洗白张伯伦？赢得了蛋的备战时间，法国为什么投降？敦克尔克大撤退。为最后的结尾扣三星
一个有信念的人能把自身的安危不顾而铤而走险，好感动。想阻止希特勒的战争，一个人的力量是何其的渺小，但是还要试一试，甚至要去刺杀希特勒。
张伯伦的确延长了二战爆发的和平时间 历史修正主义 revisionist改变不了张伯伦相信多边主义 外交可以解决争端 英法退出历史舞台 打穷了苏联打富了美国
年轻人视角见证的张伯伦/绥靖政策与其政治生涯及生命尾声，现在看来反战意识高于一切。在普通人看来仅一年的和平也是如此珍贵。后半段非常流畅动人。
Paul真的太帅了吧我口水都下来了。。。西装德医生和乱毛刚刚立耳的小德！哭戏真的好漂亮！这对很好嗑！很喜欢Lena的演员，是巴比伦柏林的女主，很灵！铁的张伯伦很传神，这部片子也算为他正名。我们历史书上的角度总说这是绥靖政策，牺牲捷克小国的利益换取偏安一隅，当然这是事实，捷克在这个故事里缺席了。但是我们没有想到，那时英国民众的反战情绪，刚经历过一战，想要以任何方式换取和平，也非常可以理解。其实Paul刺杀成功希特勒又如何？他是历史造就的人物，没有他还有其他的人代替他的位置，发动战争的不是希特勒，是当时深陷全面危机的德国人民的恐惧和利用他们的当权者，希特勒是一个象征性的存在。认识的很多德国演员都演过纳粹和犹太人，说明长期通婚之后犹太人已经不算生理上独立的种族，没有明显外表特征，只是一种宗教选择。
高中时代，只是提到了张伯伦搬起石头扎了自己的脚。宏观背后微观的故事表现不错。从宏观历史讲，欧洲人的绥靖主义风行，前有《敦刻尔克》为英国的不战而退洗锅，谓之曰：保留有生力量，然后这部《慕尼黑，战争边缘》为张伯伦正名，谓之曰：牺牲个人名誉，让美国看到德国的真面目。怯战？苟且偷安的表现不过是怯战。日不落帝国还是一副胜利者的姿态，顿时搞到恶心。牺牲小国，跟当下之乌克兰没啥区别！
片子本身的素质不错，挺加分的，铁叔还是稳
6.5 A故事以虚写实 给一个剖面看到战争爆发前各方的状态 强调小人物对于历史虽然微乎其微但日拱一卒的推动 希特勒初次登场的那场戏特别好 缺点是强行类型元素 让人出戏地强作惊悚悬疑 又为了突出主角之间的冲突把谍战戏搞的非常儿戏 而且导演对自己的表达太不自信了 生怕观众看不懂恨不得把自己的中心思想让张伯伦给念出来 话虽如此但还是好过乔乔兔之类的几百条街吧
关于历史事件的一种演绎，放到今天来看，其实大家都明白战争是毫无意义的，不过是政治的延续，所有的谈判，协议，不过是暂时的借口，最终还是实力说话。捷克的苏台德地区，也真是够悲催。
二战前夕的惶恐和一战留下来的创伤奠定了这部片子平稳、克制、压抑的叙事基调，无助与希望两股力量在那个年代每一个人心中不停对立冲撞。几乎没有太过戏剧化的高潮，但依旧精彩得让人目不转睛。把原著以惊悚谍战为主的心理戏完美呈现了出来，主演们的演技是此片得以成功的精髓。
第一次在Netflix看片...想起剑桥五杰...想去oxford念书
Another side of the story.
【021】倾向太明显，剧情和角色设置又略显单薄……
绥靖主义，很小就学到的这一词汇，现在才知道这就等同于“要和平不要战争”
这么严肃的一件事情，整的像小孩过家家似的。
拍的不错。但最后给绥靖政策脸上贴金是不是太无耻了点
谍战部分较少，过分随意的双方见面以及情报交换。
我觉得还行。可以对那段历史有个大概的了解。看过很多这种类型的，国外拍这种电影真的是很有一套。
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